Looking for past sermons? Let us pray for you. Power plays, power trips and finances will have repercussions on Judgment Day.or did certain people forget about that?!. However, no evidence of racism has yet been produced. Some of these blacks are church leaders. The church also launched a schoolFirst Baptist Academy. Hi. Southern Baptist Faith & Message Explained, Woke Purges, Show Trials: What First Baptist Church Naples reveals about the future - Capstone Report, BREAKING: FBC Naples sics lawyers on dissenting church members - Capstone Report, SBC Elites defend credibly accused standard to ruin lives, Bart Barber flipflops on pledge to bring vote to ban Women Pastors in SBC, Evangelical Elites lied you to about the origins of Covid, Woke SBC Elites Delete History To Hide Their Schemes. Also, any comments with profanity, name-calling, and/or a nasty tone will be deleted. Dwight McKissic, a prominent African American SBC pastor in Arlington, Texas. Christianity Today (CT) reported in November that Neil Dorrill had claimed at a Q&A session that inappropriate emails had been sent to Hayess church in North Carolina, Biltmore Church. Takeaway: The treatment of the retiring pastor at FBC Naples is eerily similar to the treatment of the retiring pastor at McLean Bible Church. ", Two members of the counting committee, he said, have admitted to leaking confidential early voting results from Saturday night to a lay leader in the church "who then used that information, we believe, to compromise the process.". I do not intend to allow blackmail to prevail at this point and would hope that you would support me. However, in May, Wicker said he agreed to videotape a short farewell message to members from a script both he and the personnel committee had approved. The film makes note that Marcus Hayes was subsequently ramrodded in Crossroads Church Texas. Following worship services on December 7 and 8, receptions were held to honor Edies six years at the church. Select the event you would like to attend below: FRIDAY, Dec 9 (7pm) NO RESERVATIONS AVAILABLE. Takeaway: One could reject the concerns of the church members and not label them racist. But more importantly, Ericksen said, members feel their voice isn't being heard by church leaders. First Naples || Livestream - Streaming live from Naples, FL. Find a local church Explore; Giving; App; Sign In; Find a Church; Florida; Naples, FL While methods may change, our commitment to Biblical doctrine is a non-negotiable. Stop making everything about race. In 2001, Dorrill pled guilty to racketeering conspiracy charges in connection with the Stadium Naples corruption scandal. Former deacon, Blake Crawford, said Wicker was later exonerated of the charges in the anonymous letter by church accounting firm, Phillips Harvey Group. This is why I dont attend a church and work on my relationship with God on a daily basis. At least four emails were "broadly sent," he wrote, with others privately sent. The 26-year-old guard, Jemel Roberson, was detaining a suspected gunman who opened fire at the bar where Roberson worked when the police officer fatally shot Roberson. The refusal to release specific documents to any donating member, also a violation of not only the by-laws (which was the same verbiage as the state law) but also the state of Florida Not-for-profit Compliance Act and the IRS which governs their 501(c)(3) status. to affirm of Wickers intended replacement, Marcs Hayes. "And, as a result of that, there have been groups who honestly feel a little disenfranchised. Our warfare is not against flesh and blood (Ephesians 6:12); and our duty as ambassadors does not permit us to compromise or align ourselves with any kind of human philosophies, religious deceit, or any other kind of falsehood (Colossians 2:8). SATURDAY, Dec 10 (4pm) NO RESERVATIONS AVAILABLE. More about this ministry: Welcome to First Naples! Dorrill did not elaborate on how the process was compromised, and Bonnett did not answer emailed questions about the matter. Visit: firstnaples.org/media. FBCNaples | Naples FL At the same time, some members were concerned about some of his social media posts that might indicate support for a pro-abortion, pro-LGBTQ Democrat presidential candidate, his endorsement of the problematic book Woke Church, his blocking some FBCN members on his social media platforms, and other theological, political, and administrative issues. Sad on many, many levels! Ungodly treatment of a Godly man and his entire family, not to mention those whose leadership and dedication to the Lord was well-known and long-standing. Need to read the book by Shelby Steele White Guilt where he lays out perfectly the Marist agenda going on. If those sound like difficult assignments to keep in balance and maintain in proper perspective, it is because they are. This ban prevented him from seeing his granddaughter perform in a play being put on at the churchs school, First Baptist Academy. 3000 Orange Blossom Drive. Our constitution and bylaws stated that a Senior Pastor must be affirmed by at least an 85% or higher vote. Other parts of the email laid out concerns the group had with Hayes' tweets about books that deal with race and religion and questioned whether he had the necessary experience to take the post as senior pastor. ", Dorrill said there had been "a concerted campaign of misinformation filled with destructive and divisive content." An economy of power, people, and indeed money which is non-ecclesiastical but highly influential within evangelical churches. On the surface, Marcus Hayes is a highly recommended pastor who is seemingly qualified for the role. First Baptist Church Naples, she said,"is not a racist church by any stretch of the imagination. In his quote-tweet, Hayes said Roberson was in his student ministry while he was a youth pastor in Chicago. We see this is the third article this month youve found worth reading. Our Vision. Thanks for submitting! Two days after the meeting with Pastor Edie and Chairmen Boone and Collier, Wicker said he was told to vacate church premises immediately. In June, Voices of FBCN sent an email to many in the church, criticizing the actions of church leadership. about the pastoral transition process at the church, a process which has descended *Please note that the preceding is my personal opinion. Ready to start serving? I dont think that it was right how they treated him. "My heart goes out to his family," Hayes wrote. Pastor Hayes is the Pastor. ", CONSIDER SUBSCRIBING TODAY: Help support local journalism, More: Read the letter from First Baptist to church members regarding voting results, In a letter to church membersshortly after the failed vote, the church pointed the finger at groupscalled "Voices of FBCN" and"Group of Concerned FBCN Members.". Come see the Living Christmas Trees. That's why Hayes was not officially approved, when in past years he would have been. Since the failed vote, other allegations have surfaced. church as large as FBC Naples. hating even the garment polluted by the flesh (Jude 23). action has been taken to enact church discipline on the dissenters because of After Marcus Hayes failed to receive the necessary 85 percent affirmative vote to install him as pastor, the leadership of First Baptist Church Naples, including the church staff, launched a pogrom against dissenters. Any copyrighted material displayed or referenced is done under the doctrine of fair use. This models anything but love and mocks justice. Instead, Wicker was quickly forced out. In closing, I dont desire to argue with anyone; i have nothing to gain. What does this say about Big Eva? "We all realize that the year of 2019 has been very difficult in the life of our church," Dorrill said. Clarified a few things I had heard through the SBC grape vine. You would call Martin Luther King an Uncle Tom Im sure. I am not lesser or better, but different. For sales or technical support please click here. Multiple sources claiming to be from FBC Naples have reached out to Pulpit & Pen and Reformation Charlotte and we are currently assessing the accounts of these individual. At the time, Wicker seemed to be well-respected by his church and denomination. Edie, the church's executive pastor, however, called Hayes "one of the most qualified men in Southern Baptist life to be a Senior Pastor of any church in this country.". Editors note: This story has been updated to reflect accurate information regarding the participants at a meeting of FBC Naples leaders on April 23. Naples, FL, 34109 Customers Love Us "Great experience! Just because no one blatantly used a racial slur or expressed overtly racist statements does not mean that racism was not expressed or used during the selection process. The judge in the case withheld a conviction but gave Dorrill a $10,000 fine and three years probation. Its devastating to the proclamation of the Gospel. The church by-laws allow for the expulsion of members without consulting the entire church body. Concerned Members of FBCN says the petition received 800 signatures. 3000 Orange Blossom Drive, Naples, FL 34109, U.S. Connect with the reporter at patrick.riley@naplesnews.com or on Twitter @PatJRiley. For the church's leadership, "it exposed a sickness in what we characterize as a cancer within our fellowship," he continued in the letter, which also asked for forgiveness from Hayes and his wife and "any other person who has been offended, hurt, or damaged by the outcome" of the vote. We likewise contacted SBC President J.D. Of course, it is obvious you have a vested interest in attacking those putting out the facts. Keep in touch with Julie and get updates in your inbox! Pray for Me; Log In Enough racists voted against the pastor. Instead, the group alleges that the racism charge was a ruse by men who had recently seized control of the church, expelled and maligned a beloved pastor of 27 years, and then fabricated a basis for excommunicating those who had objected. Check the upcoming First Baptist Church - Naples schedule for concerts, shows, and events in 2023-2024 to find the best tickets for all events at First Baptist Church - Naples. Yet Easter services would be the last time Wicker would preach at FBC Naples. Masters of Divinity in Christian Apologetics, New Orleans Baptist Theological Seminary On social media, too, some church members said race played no role in the failed vote. Church leadership responded in an email to members, calling the Voices of FBCNs email inaccurate and slanderous and claiming that a security breach of the churchs email list had occurred. I'm New. It may not be sorted out down here but everyone has to give an account, and especially those in leadership positions of the Lords Church for whom He died. We have known Hayes & his family as good Christian people etc.for over 25 years. Garippa said The Naples Gathering has 350 to 400 people attending, 85-percent of whom are former FBC Naples members. This is a clear case of men doing what they can to build their own kingdoms, not Jesus and to manipulate things into their own will being done, again not Jesus. Honestly, the system that ousted him is the machine he created. {I realize, Im using the word black rather than African American. I personally do not care for the term African American, and there are black people who dislike it more than I do.} Give Online. pastoral staff has publicly accused church members who did not approve of Marcus Church discipline for dissenting members was greeted with wild applause. 1/2: 17+yr member of FBCN and attendee here! Ive already been excommunicated and humiliated. . Click below to hear stories and testimonies of how the Lord has been working in and through our First Naples Family. In addition to this ungodly action, a criminal investigation was instigated by church leadership over email addresses that were allegedly stolen from the church by an anonymous group calling itself Voices of FBCN. Wicker said the church never responded to his letter. Bunch of old white guys with too much time on their hands and too many books in their personal theology libraries. Why is that? Yet despite all thats happened, Wicker said, I pray people would not use this to come against megachurches or seeing all committees as bad., Similarly, Caudill stated, First Baptist Naples still has potential to be used greatly by God. God has to be deeply saddened by this, knowing that so much more could be done. The Marcus Hayes vote was used to cry wolf. "It seems all cops ever see is black," the attorney continued. Per the church's constitution and bylaws, a senior pastor must be affirmed by a margin of at least 85% of the vote, but Hayes only garnered 81%of the vote, with 1,552 "yes" votes compared to 365 "no" votes. And because it promises rewards to individuals and organizations influence, students, platform it is both very hard to criticize and functionally unaccountable to any but its own. Their considerations related to legitimate theological, moral, and political issues. My heart goes out to his family. Gas. The so-called dissenters had issues with what the church was doing WELL BEFORE Marcus Hayes arrived. Dorrill near the end of a Nov. 2 service told the congregation that "the integrity of our election last weekend was compromised. A movement, to direct and shape the policies and testimony of the church is quite a thing. That is a perfect summary of every Christians duty in the war for the truth. We believe all matters of life should be subjected to the Scriptures (2 Timothy 3:16). This sort of trashing of fine people is becoming commonplace is an SBC I was once very happy to be a part of. (The church publishes an annual directory with member email addresses.). First Baptist Church of Naples Florida Openly Admits Congregational Racism October 30, 2019 by admin In a recent story from Religion News Source (RNS) it was revealed that First Baptist Church of Naples, Florida, failed to elect a new pastor because he was black. If this pastoral candidate supportes a book that divides the church along ethnic lines and stirs up divisions in the body of Christ, it is sad that he received as many votes as he did. FBC Naples, Floridas longtime senior pastor Hayes Wicker announced his retirement from pastoring the church in January 2019. Hayes, a member of the North Carolina executive committee of the Southern Baptist Convention,garnered endorsements from other church leaders, including the president of the Southern Baptist Convention. "Marcus Hayes, a highly respected and a well-qualified pastor, remains the man that we believe God has called to be our next pastor," Dorrill said to a standing ovation from the congregation. 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By circumventing the clear teachings of Matthew 18:15-17 regarding church discipline, this process showcases glaring problems with approaches to discipline that rely entirely on church oligarchies. Been here 25+ times. Notice carefully: Our task as ambassadors is to bring good news to people. I attended the Saturday evening service with Dr.Marcus Hayes. Until this happens FBCN will be a former great ministry. Naples, FL 34109 (239) 597-2233. Naples, FL 34109 (239) 597-2233. They arrived in Naples and gathered other Baptist families to meet with them in a small outbuilding behind the local grocery store, meeting for their first worship . As managing editor of the former Florida Baptist Witness (state paper) I was witness to many of Hayes Wickers years of fruitful ministry. It was appalling and heartbreaking to witness. The power plays, ego trippin (yes, I did say trippin), greed, pride, etc., has been going on throughout church history. Hayes Wicker was the pastor of First Baptist Church of Naples (Florida) for 27 years. Arkansas Youth Pastor Pleads Guilty to 13 Counts of Sexual Assault, Churches Respond to Action of SBC Executive Committee, Why Businessman Peter Chung Matters for the Future of The Kings College. We are frankly disappointed that no resolution is making it impossible as at now for all the lovely folks within Naples to move forward. Wicker, a former President of the Florida Baptist Convention and the SBC Pastors' Conference, was such a high-profile leader and fundraiser for Baptist causes that his retirement was covered by Baptist Press, which reported the following on February 4th: Yet despite all thats happened, Wicker said, I pray people would not use this to come against megachurches or seeing all committees as bad.. Allegedly he said he was happy to see some people in SBC membership moved to the bottom as others move to the top. We are ambassadorswith a message of good news for people who walk in a land of darkness and dwell in the land of the shadow of death (Isaiah 9:2). But what was concluded was that all things were not fair nor were they right. If it can happen at FBC Naples, it can happen anywhere. You obviously didnt pay attention to everything in that article, only the points you chose to focus on on. Now, church members who have been removed from membership over their opposition to the appointment of Marcus Hayes are in fear that they may be unable to witness their children graduate. This sequence of events raised many questions for me and my wife, Caudill said. When I look at Jesus and his disciples I do not see anything that looks as atrocious as this mess. Sad state of affairs. Would you believe that not a single member of the church has reached out to me in love and asked to hear my side of the events. Shopping. But am I not allowed to vote based on my opinion without being called a racist? First Baptist Church Naples. . He friended, then de-friended and blocked my wife on social media. (Hayes this month took his first senior pastor position at a church in Texas.). Wicker said the future for him and his wife is uncertain. Terms of Service They have been in my heart and prayers since this happened. @Michelle I believe you make valid points. (I)t seems from social media posts that, with no investigation, some convention leaders have chosen to believe this narrative, Caudill wrote. (Lets not even get into the bullying by church staff) Lets just focus on the by-laws for one second. SUNDAY, Dec 11 (4pm) NO RESERVATIONS AVAILABLE. After years of delay, Southern Baptists passed a series of reforms in 2022 aimed at addressing abuse in the nations largest Protestant, A former youth pastor at First Baptist Church (FBC) of Bentonville, Arkansas, has accepted a plea deal for his victimization of children, Several churches deemed not in friendly cooperation with the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC) have responded to action taken by the SBC Executive. A portion of the 19% that voted against Marcus Hayes did so based on racial prejudices. The congregation must find a way to publicly be able to bring Hayes Wicker and his family back into this fellowship as loved and former members. 11,847 were here. I just wish so many from my former church would open their eyes and see whats going on. Thats why its so harmful to the church; its born of and encourages the myopic tendencies of American evangelicalism. Get new articles and breaking news delivered to your inbox. The pastor was amazing, the atmosphere electrifying, we had fallen in love with the pastor. Christians should model justice and love to the world. Many church members are staying silent because they fear their children will be kicked out of the Christian school run by the church. So very sorry, but not everything is about race and not everyone is a racist. SUNDAY, Dec 11 (7pm) And on December 31, Wicker said the health insurance provided by the church was cut off for him and his wife, who has a serious heart condition. The leadership spread negative comments about the pastor and accused him of acting in bad faith, according to sources close to the church. @Bernie Lutchman you are so correct. Blake Crawford and former deacon, Mike Dolan, said they were also suspended around that time. "It had to do with biblical principals that many questioned," she wrote. The message at FBCN is clear: get along or get out. In addition, those who have been excommunicated, as well as former Pastor Hayes Wicker, say they feel like their reputations have been sullied. Takeaway: So much for a democracy. Stephens said neither she nor any member of her family wrote the e-mail, adding that none of the church staff ever reached out or spoke to me. She also said the detectives told her that no criminal actions had taken place.. Racism had Nothing to do with voting!It had to do with biblical principals that many questioned ( CRT, SJM, "Woke" Church). Hayes Wicker was the pastor of First Baptist Church of Naples (Florida) for 27 years. And they said, Surely, you will not die. To donate, click here. The Story Of First Baptist Church Naples is disturbing and alarming, but it is meant to be an inspiration. the group wrote. However, at some point the church leadership became hostile to the longtime pastor, according to church members. Instead of the transition period Wicker announced, the staff strong-armed Wicker out after over a quarter of a century of service to the people of FBC Naples, sources told the Capstone Report. The situation at FBC Naples should serve as a solemn reminder to church members everywhere to ensure that their by-laws provide church members biblical protections from rogue staff members who would seek to dominate their church. The experience with the church was so unnerving for the Wickers that in September, the extended familyincluding two adult children, their spouses, and six grandchildrenpulled up stakes from Naples and moved several states away. The churchs First Baptist Naples is, ethnically, a predominantly white church but we are not a racist church.. I can tell you I am not a racist. I just want to point out that when you say things like I am in a biracial marriage, it sounds a LOT like I have a black friend. Trust me, that gets you little more than eye-rolling. Jonathan Head November 26, 2011. . fell short of the 85% vote required to install him as a pastor. We recall the old Church too. They released a statement to the church family blaming racism for the rejection of Marcus Hayes. This is a demonstration of holding a form of godliness, but having denied the power thereof. And Paul goes on to say So, Turn away from these, also. This man and his family cannot set foot onto church property, he will never again be able to address a congregation where so many hold him in the highest of esteem. Bob Caudill, a former deacon and spokesman for Concerned Members of FBCN, said that a month before the vote on Marcus Hayes, the group had circulated a petition requesting a special business meeting to discuss serious concerns at FBC Naples. I guess I missed this one. (Auxanos founder, Will Mancini, also serves as director of consulting for Lifeway, the publishing division of the SBC.). Jonathan Head November 26, 2011. He nevertheless urged them to contend earnestly for the faith against all falsehood, while doing everything possible to deliver souls from destruction: snatching them out of the fire . What would Jesus make of Wokeness intersectionality, and indeed, the movement for resegregation by some of those who are of the Prominent Woke, in light of Galatians 3:28? He hopes Soon, one way or another there will be a woke pastor in the pulpit of FBCN. We asked him to allow us to hug him. He didnt mentioned anything in the question and answer sessions or his sermon that gave me any indication reconciling and unifying our church was even on his radar. I left the church. Catholic Idolaters Claim to Find St. Peters BonesAgain. Jonathan Akin is also national director of young leaders for SBCs North American Mission Board. He and his wife live in the Washington, D.C. area with their son. ( I wonder what the Aramaic is for fad.). Of course they did. What Bible verse says that it is a good idea to borrow money to make your church building bigger and more fancy? Racial prejudice a factor in rejection of black pastor, read the headline of a piece published in the Baptist Standard. Why abide with a corrupt individual being in a leadership position at the church? During Wickers 27-year tenure, FBC Naples grew from 400 weekly attendance to over 3,000. Jude certainly understood this. This group was engaged in an email campaign to inform church members about various concerns with Marcus Hayes. Am I not allowed as a deacon and 15+ year member of the church to ask questions about leaders who in my opinion have lied and deceived the church for political gain? The biggest reason most did not vote yes, had to do with the fact that people didnt think it was fair to ask Marcus to uproot his family and relocate to a church that was in COMPLETE turmoil and had a leadership that was REFUSING to acknowledge it. At the end of the service we found the pastor in The Commons area. The group adds that national leaders within FBC Napless denomination, the Southern Baptist Convention (SBC), supported the churchs leadership and furthered the racism charge. What a great and wise man of God he is? There is no room in our Gospel for racism, none whatsoever. Give a gift of $30 or more to The Roys Report this month, and you will receive a copy of "Escaping the Maze of Spiritual Abuse" by Dr. Lisa Oakley and Justin Humphreys. Upvote 1 Downvote. Marcus D. Hayes, a pastor from Hendersonville, North Carolina, was brought before the church congregation on the weekend of Oct. 26 and 27 by the church'spastor search committee to affirm him as the next senior pastor. **Statements about the actions taken by FBC Naples leadership assume the fidelity of Pulpit & Pens inside source. And in 2006, Wicker served as head of the SBC Pastors Conference. Dwight McKissic for comment, but none responded. 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