Problem is if you are posting here, youre not posting in the private group. We do have Crop Protection Services here in town (recently changed name to NutriAg Solutions, and funny enough they were going to move operations over to the cps building when it was vacant and got into a lease with the town but there were to many problems with the building and it didnt pass code, they never moved in and moved into a building over on Prince William rd instead. Mike Patty reveals that he went back to the house to retrieve "phone information" and brought it to the police so they could start "pinging" Libby's phones. Abigail Abby Williams, 13-years old, and her best friend Liberty Libby Rose Lynn German, 14-years old, went hiking near the Monon High Bridge, a part of the historic Trails in Delphi, Indiana on Monday, February 13, 2017. Allen, who has entered . The report of the girls head being only attached by an inch of skin implies a single huge blow with a hatchet because this is the sort of wound a hatchet, not a knife, would have caused. It is probable the "pinging around town" was a miscommunication around cellphone triangulation or cell tower function. On April 22, 2019 a sketch of the person who the Indiana State Police believe attacked Libby and Abby was released during a press conference detailing "a new direction" the investigation was taking. If Mr. X did that, we think that was a pretty lousy thing to do to his stepson. . [13]. And its never gone away. Comment * document.getElementById("comment").setAttribute( "id", "a81b3493f6a12e73f3f44f64949534d4" );document.getElementById("b83dbe3da2").setAttribute( "id", "comment" ); document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); Your email address will not be published. Police won't release anymore to protect the integrity of the investigation, but they've seen the video and likely won't be able to stop thinking about it. On the other hand, there is a report from the south end of the bridge by a woman who said she saw Young BG there and scared him off her property. Allen, who is married, came forward as a witness in the earlier stages of the investigation, a source told FOX 59. In that case you could understand her hesitation in coming forward; being so close to being his victim that day would be enough to scare you into silence. DELPHI, Ind. Turns out the brother of a team member is best friends with this high-ranking person. ", He encouraged the community to come forward with more information, and said if any other people "had any involvement in these murders in any way, that person or persons will be held accountable.". So now we have testimony from three excellent sources two independent search party members and an LE source close to the investigation. Also, LE seem to have an actual suspect in mind as a possible accomplice, as he said the possible accomplice is considerably younger than Mr. X and has a much greater ability to run. They dont want him taking off. If the referred to "High Bridge trail head" is the location near the trail intersections or the location near the trail intersection is unknown. Hopefully I will be able to talk to you someone with a brain, someone who is passionate about this case. I even walked all the way across the bridge and back. Are these guys even humans? Just curious why no one saw the girls but later we have 3 people saying they saw a guy (BG?) by Pentagon Pedophile Task Force on June 26, 2021 at 9:37 P.M. German was your usual extrovert, with a dream of one day becoming a science teacher. released during a press conference on April 22 2019. The renderings are a "ballpark estimation of what the person looks like.". ", "A Delphi, Indiana, police detective looks for evidence at the scene where the two girl's bodies where found. her. If that dick I mean Gray Hughes got any tip, it was from the information I sent to the family, that possibly like the snake he is might have retrieved this information. Delphi murders investigation timeline: Review the case through 5 years of reporting. 1 of 2. [10]. He added that they didnt publicize it because the town was freaked out enough by one murder, and they thought the idea of two killers would make people panic. November 2, 2022; Alleged Delphi Killer - Richard Allen - Serial Killer? "I think the media is can be a very good partner in cases like this to keep things moving along," where investigations may have otherwise stalled," she added. or more realistically, these witnesses are scared that this murderer would come after them too. These sketches were both alleged to have been created by witnesses speaking with a sketch artist. Maybe he encountered the killer on his property and either knew or didn't knkw him and was scared to come forward cause he made threats or he knewhes get in trouble for drinking and maybe was so drunk he wasn't sure if it happened. and FSG saying he saw arguing couple. PLENTY more shocking twists and turns should be expected in the months ahead as the Delphi murders investigation remains active and ongoing, according to a duo of prolific true crime podcasters. They released a second sketch of the suspect that looks entirely different than the one released in 2017. Neither woman has ever met the other, so this is independent confirmation from two separate sources. Delphi police and the prosecutor's office said a public court hearing will be set to determine if the documents, including the affidavit in the case, will remain under seal. But is just recently coming forward with the information, which is how the released sketch came to be. There is a $250,000 reward for any information that leads to an arrest in the case. DELPHI MURDERS: WHAT TO KNOW ABOUT THE 2017 KILLINGS OF LIBBY GERMAN AND ABBY WILLIAMS. DELPHI, Ind. "While sometimes it's been painful, I am grateful for you all.". DELPHI MURDERS: WITNESS TIMELINE (MINDSHOCK TRUE CRIME PODCAST)Examining the witnesses around the Monon High Bridge and the trail. Cult member who helped to send Charles Manson to prison for life dead at 73. However, I just heard via DDcups, a man from Australia, and an excellent poster on the Reddit Delphi subs, that he contacted someone who knew a Delphi police officer, and this person told him his police friend had stated that dolls were scattered around the crime scene. They dont even know if there were two killers. Information sent by email is kept confidential and is only shared with investigators. Even after the arrest of a suspect on Oct. 26, police have declined to answer most questions about the case, saying they don't want to jeopardize the prosecution. Well thats because that's where all the kids were. He finally broke down and told his wife about the girls being violated sexually by natural wooden objects from the forest. We assume that is true because there is a rumor to that effect and also the FBI search warrant we have says they are looking for photos, videos, cameras, videocameras, film, etc. Law enforcement said Libby started to video record before criminal behavior began to occur. We dont know what his original first name was, but his original last name was not the same as Mr. Xs. Well that's because that's where all the kids were. Did she see him before the crime or after the crime? Tietosuojakytnnstmme ja evstekytnnstmme voit lukea listietoa siit, miten kytmme tietojasi. Police Announce New Direction, Video and Audio, in the Delphi Murders Case. The exact body disposal location has never been released by law enforcement. Tried to review some LE-provided information regarding the crime scene w/o speculation. . Now, as the investigation has matured and past information has been reassessed, it is the belief of investigators with the Multi-Agency Task Force that the person depicted in the sketch released on April 22nd more accurately represents the person wanted for the murders of Abigail Williams and Liberty German. Submissions should outline a mystery and provide a link to a more detailed review of the case such as a Wiki article or news report. I suppose the staging of the crime scene was also meant to stage a murder-suicide based on the suggestion that one girl hand stabbed the other in the jugular vein and the heart, which would have been plausible at least, and then stabbed herself all over her body, after which she would have cut her own throat, which is impossible. Witness sees Delphi Murder suspect, but just recently comes forward to help with composite sketch This article says the recent sketch was from a witness who saw BG. Two female members of the search party contacted team members separately with revelations about the crime. The rumor that dolls were scattered around the crime scene seems patently ridiculous. Prosecutors accuse Allen of forcing the girls off of the trails east of the city near the Monon High Bridge. And somebody yelled up that they had found a shoe. Visitors Online 1,235 Visitors Online 1,235 Home. I will have to go back and look through my IMs to see to what extent she corroborated the other woman. The judge ordered Allen held without bond and sealed the probable cause affidavit and charging documents. While Flores was long considered the sole suspect in the case, authorities said Lambert was able to uncover witnesses that investigators had never . Much like ISP's investigation, The Murder Sheet's probe into the Delphi killings is also far from over. RELATED: Arrest made in Delphi murders of 2 teens in 2017; suspect worked at the local pharmacy, residents say. [6], An article is published by WLFI which interviews Mike Patty who says The cellphone has been pinging around town and here there is a cellphone tower but the ping was last noted around five to six hours ago. Allen, 50, has been charged with two counts of murder for killing German, 14, and her best friend, Williams, 13 a major break in the mysterious homicides that have baffled investigators for nearly six years. I have a couple more theories I would like to discuss with you. The autopsies are completely sealed as this is an active investigation. Is it possible that the doll or stuff toy came from the old welfare building or CPS building that was torn down? After over five years, a man has been charged with murder in the deaths of Abigail Williams and Liberty German. An ejected .40-caliber shell found . Girls stay in the hard to knock up stage from ages 13-15. I forgot to mention that you said that you may have a motive? Later I found that this same search party member had contacted two team members, and in addition, the second woman contacted one of the same team members. Also, a slow cut even with a big knife would not have drenched BG in blood. It would be wrong to assume that all items collected ended up being related to the case. Published 2:05 AM PST Nov. 15, 2022 Updated 12:41 PM PST Nov. 29, 2022. In what is the finest coup for our group of ~230 paid members, a retired homicide detective from Washington DC joined our group as a paid member! It carried trains high above Deer Creek until it was abandoned by CSX in 1987.The abandoned railroad bridge has since become a popular attraction for people who live in the area, despite its disrepair and exclusion from the official Delphi Historic Trail System. The Indy Channel article Delphi Daughters, 9. "Thats what I guess was the biggest shock.". DEVELOPMENT: Delphi Police Chief receives telephone call from man with voice that sounds like suspect. Bullet found near 2 teen girls' bodies came from suspect and witness saw man wearing "muddy and bloody" clothes, affidavit says November 30, 2022 / 6:15 AM / CBS/AP Arrest made in murders of 2 girls failed . We now know who the FBI was looking into at first as a potential . The detective had never heard of you? Privacy Policy. Everything We Know About The Unsolved Delphi Murders. We got these LE sources from local sleuth JM. Do you feel that way as well? All of the material is referenced in terms of where it come from and how good of a source it is. Just forget about him. We say this because he has the same first and last name as Mr. X. And this website wishes to honor that. . I only (saw). That is correct. Slide to see images taken at the end of bridge and down the hill. Maybe that is what took so long. Its believed that the killer may be from or has lived in the city of Delphi. Tietoja laitteestasi ja Internet-yhteydest (esimerkiksi IP-osoitteesi), Selaaminen ja hakutoiminnot Yahoon verkkosivustojen ja -sovellusten kytn aikana. In this case, Stepson X would be completely innocent and would instead have been simply used as a pawn by Mr. X in committing his crime. Rebecca Rosenberg is a veteran journalist and book author with a focus on crime and criminal justice. "Doug Carter made it clear at the press conference yesterday that the investigation was not over, and he would not rule out the possibility of more people being involved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, Carroll County Historical Museum Photo Archives. Jos haluat listietoa ja haluat hallita valintojasi, napsauta Hallitse asetuksia. They were reported missing that night, and their lifeless bodies were found the next day in a wooded area about half a mile from the railroad bridge. The department has received over 40,000 tips, all have been vetted and follow-upped on. Instead, it has been an area of active investigation for four years. And it is easy it is to photograph a fake screenshot displayed on a phone. In his remarks on Monday, Doug Carter gave special thanks to the media and podcasters specifically for the role they've played in helping to keep Libby and Abby's story alive in the wake of their tragic deaths. For more information, please see our (AP Photo/Michael Conroy). Powered and implemented by FactSet Digital Solutions. The new trial date will be set during the June bail hearing. Allen, who is married, came forward as a witness in the earlier stages of the investigation, a source told FOX 59. This is what I was told by my own mother, so take it as you will. Thanks for stopping by, dear! Richard Allen's bail hearing has been set for Thursday, June 15 at 8:30 a.m. in Carroll County. all the while not leaving any DNA behind. I always thought it was child protective services until last year. . Abby and Libby had been enjoying a day off school, hanging out at the Delphi Historic Trails when they disappeared on Feb. 13, 2017. Anyone with information about this case is encouraged to send tips to this email address:abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com. Or better yet, join our private group! I think they love to hate you because you are that good! Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. "He also made it clear that the police investigation is still actively soliciting tips. It is possible that a WLFI-18 reporter spoke to someone in law enforcement before or after the press conference in order to ascertain this. I cant believe how any of these detectives do what they do. yesterday, I think it's really interesting that the police guy who's talking accidentally uses the pronoun 'she' when referring to the witness, three times. The person will describe the suspect based on those categories. J. Kyle Keener, aphotographer working for the newspaper Pharos Tribune took some of the highest quality photos of the investigation during February 14, 2017. Email me to find out. An article from WTHR says audio from Libby German's cell phone was played for the victims' families, including a mention of a man they noticed behind them. There has been no official indication of if this description is still relevant to the investigation as it was associated with the oldsketch. "A new sketch of the suspect was released as well as a new version of the audio recording, in which a slight inflection in the mans voice can be detected as he says the word 'guys,'in addition to the words 'down the hill.' The leak is from a very high-ranking person on that team. Police say the girls mostly talk about 'stuff girls talk about'in the recording, but, Sgt. Stands for Kegan Dunker my poi. . In four years, we only had two LE sources, and each of them told us one statement. Like I said, idk. Im really interested in reading your Delphi stuff. So the building was still standing but was not in use during the day of the crime February 13, 2017. But Mr. Xs position as a suspect is really up to the level of POI (a higher standard), as they believe he committed the crime. VITAL WITNESS. Where did she see him? Further complicating this matter is the existence of two sketches of two entirely different people. This was no accident. The witnesses could only see the top half of BGs face. "I think that is going to be very interesting to see going forward as we come closer to a possible trial," she went on. This route went from Chicago to Indianapolis and was called the Airline route. I sure hope so. CSX Transportation ceased its use of the railroad in 1987. A Google Street View photo on August 2018 shows the building is now torn down: However the building had not been torn down and can be seen still standing on February 14, 2017 in RTV-6 helicopter footage. It was Child Protective services. A female witness "C" chose to publicly comment on a Facebook post written by a family member of the victim discussing how she was on the trail that day shortly after the girls. DELPHI, Ind. [1], The official stated reason for this change according to the press release is As the investigation has progressed, information has been continuously reviewed and examined and this sketch more accurately depicts the face of the suspect from the video recorded on Liberty German's cell phone while she and Abigail were on the High Bridge. [2], During the conference Police Superintendent Doug Carter said We have concluded the first sketch released will become secondary as of today, the result of the new information and intelligence over time leads us to believe the sketch which you will see shortly is the person responsible for the murders of these two little girls. [3]. [18] C wrote on Facebook: I even walked all the way across the bridge and back. I can give you instructions here if you like. The Monon Railroad was built through Carroll County from 1879 to 1881 and the first train went over the High Bridge in January of 1881. PLENTY more shocking twists and turns should be expected in the months ahead as the Delphi murders investigation remains active and ongoing, according to a duo of prolific true crime podcasters. I think we expect more twists and turns and more unexpected developments who knows what lies ahead. Prior to doing so, Allens wife had an image from 2018 displayed on her page showing their adult daughter posing on the Monon High Bridge Trail in Delphi. At every crime scene, you are going to have DNA. I think a witness would assume that the suspect was a local or from the nearby region and that the witness was probably a local. Also this rumor has been somewhat backed up by a third LE sources close to the investigation, who said both girls had been violated with foreign objects. Now we have three references to this statement, all from the police themselves. ine explained there is a "chasm" between the information the media has, what the public is being told, and what law enforcement knows and is investigating. Stepson X is Mrs. Xs child by a previous marriage and may have been adopted by Mr. X. I do believe that the new developments in this case are pertinent and involve the early search on bicycle road in some way. New York Times article You Are Hiding in Plain Sight, 14. If you look at the 2019 press conf, Carter says parked at the CPS/DCF [Dept of Children & Families] building. On Indiana states social services website where they list addresses to Dept of Welfare locations and Child Services locations by county. It could be literally anything.". best glock rmr co witness sights. During that time, the pair has been responsible for unearthing a number of crucial pieces of information in the case. But what exactly is known about the man charged with the 2017 m The Delphi Murder Tip Line was routed to the FBI's Major Case Contract Center in Washington, D.C because of the sheer number of calls they were receiving. There is a small fee of $20 to join, which includes lifetime membership. The Indy Channel article Delphi Timeline, 13. This "new" sketch was actually created earlier then the "old" sketch according to an Indy Star article,which writes: Master Trooper Taylor Bryant, a sketch artist with Indiana State Police who drew the new sketch, told IndyStar a sketch is based on how a particular witness describes the suspect. He said, 'did you happen to see two girls up there?' Thanks for coming to the site. It said, We have a secret and the photo shows both of them holding up their hands in secret signs. [9], The Monon High Bridge Trail is 1.44 mile long trail. Allen, a 50-year-old CVS worker who has lived in Delphi for more than a decade, has pleaded not guilty to the charges. "When I'm asked to explain it, I say this case is like looking through a darkened window of a home: you can see what's going on in the living room but you have no idea what's happening in the kitchen or anywhere else inside the house," she said. We are still working on identifying all of the DNA that we have there. When she approached, offering help, the young man told her that he was waiting for his dad to pick him up. Updated: Nov 29, 2022 / 06:57 PM EST. It was initially believed the sketch that has been in public view over the last two years of a person in the age range of his 40s to 50s was a person of interest in this murder investigation. Attorneys with the prosecutors and defense met virtually Friday for the suspect in the Delphi killings. If there are several witnesses, Bryant would draw a sketch for each description. Today, a new sketch of the suspect, appearing to be in his mid-twenties to mid-thirties. The slain girls' families were also regulars at the restaurant, Matlock said. WDRB article Families of teens, 20. That Mr. X will be arrested so soon? I also believe that Abby and Libby were killed somewhere else. Judge Frances Gull opted to unseal the Richard Allen Probable Cause Affidavit, marking one of the first times documents related to the Delphi murders have been publicly released.. "I can't tell you eye color, but I can say they're not blue!" DELPHI More than two years after Liberty German and Abigail Williams were found murdered, Indiana State Police are releasing new evidence to help find their killer. This happens a lot in remarriages. And so the other sketch was somebody saw, in the area, and was suspicious about. ", "A Delphi police detective searches the scene near midday Tuesday where two bodies were found near the banks of Deer Creek.". DELPHI, Ind. The families of the victims have spoken about a man that Derrick ran into when he arrived at the trail at roughly 3:14pm. This comment is a couple days late but I'd like to remind everyone that shaming witnesses for not coming forward soon enough, scare off witnesses who "waited too long" to come forward in the first place. Thank you, dear. The suspect, who has no criminal record, worked as a pharmacy technician at the local CVS in Delphi a town that numbers about 3,000 people. I have a notebook with a lot of information I thought was important. We also agree with Leaker that the girls were lured to the site that day. In addition, we talked to two other people who both told us they had inside sources. They told us that their inside sources (plural) had all told them that there was some sort of luring of the girls to the site on the day of the crime. So while this does not back up the catfish theory per se, it does seem that a lot of evidence is converging on the notion that the girls were lured to the bridge that day, including about five separate sources, albeit most of them being vague. ABC 21 reports that an anonymous donor gave $100,00 for the reward fund to help catch the person who killed two young girls over three years ago. I have a theory that the crime scene was already set up before the girls were placed there. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. The initial contactspecifically happened right at the end of the bridge, on the South East end, where it stops being a bridge and becomes a trail again. Did he work alone as a solo killer? But is just recently coming forward with the information, which is how the released sketch came to be. Bob Matlock, the owner of the now-closed JC's Bar an Grill in Delphi, Indiana, said murder suspect Richard Allen, 50, is a married dad-of-two who came to his tavern 3-4 times a week. Yes, this is third hand We are very excited to report this news. "I also want to thank all of the reporters, podcasters, and other news and social media outlets for keeping our girls' story relevant and in the public eye. Why fly all over the country looking at hatchet criminals unless the crime involved a hatchet? Then he said, There was at least one doll at the crime scene.. Murder Victim Delphi, Carroll County, Indiana February 13, 2017. He stood there for a little bit, he looked around and didnt see anybody or anything so he thinks he started walking towards the High Bridge, he was just about to where it forks and he ran into an older gentleman that was coming from the High Bridge and he asks him Did you see a couple of girls there? and he said No, but there's a couple down underneath." - Becky Patty, Timestamp 22:47,Interview with Mike And Becky Patty by Gray Hughes, https://www.theindychannel.com/news/local-news/help-isp-identify-this-man-who-was-on-the-walking-trails-monday-near-delphi. There is a POI whose mother volunteers at a church free clothing store. All rights reserved. Officers transport murder suspect Richard Allen during a hearing regarding sealed documents, Tuesday, Nov. 22, 2022, at Carroll County Courthouse in Delphi, Ind. It sounds like they dont have enough to think this possible accomplice was actually involved, similar to the case against Mr. X. Also, we have not yet confirmed that there was more than one killer involved in this crime, but see below for more on that. And they yelled out the type of shoe that Libby was wearing. Yes, a gun was used in the crime. [20]. I mean what if he approached the car after she dropped the girls off and she knew who he was and was polite and replied but didn't want to think it was him. An interesting new theory has come up. How many saw Bridge Guy an. Sources tell Call 6 Investigates that a set of footprints are what led volunteers to the area the bodies were found. Indiana Landmarks Announces Rescue of Monon High Bridge. I would like to talk to you about a couple of theories I have come up with. He was a regular at JC's Bar and Grill, which has since been shuttered, where he liked to play pool, according to the Indy Star. Possible Accomplice is at the lower level of suspect, and its not even known if he was ever at the crime scene that day. Robert Lindsay, Independent Journalist: l Talk about Things You're Not Supposed to Talk About. I am quite happy to ban you here today. But a hatchet blow sure would have. Well, if it was a she, then it could have been another young woman who was approached by this man and got away because she saw him as suspicious. Reading a transcript of the press conference (? [5]. Source: April 22 2019 Press Conference, Timestamp5:48, [Note: originally it was said to be on February 14 2017, but it was later corrected by law enforcement to February 13th.]. I haven't been on in a awhile. [7]. 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